During our hike last weekend, we were talking about the religion of Scientology.  I decided to look it up and see just what it’s about.  Here’s a statement from the official website:

Developed by L. Ron Hubbard, Scientology is a religion that offers a precise path leading to a complete and certain understanding of one’s true spiritual nature and of one’s relationship with self, family, groups, mankind, all life forms, the material universe, the spiritual universe and the Supreme Being, or infinity.

Scientology addresses the spirit — not simply the body or mind — and believes that man is far more than a product of his environment, or his genes.

Scientology comprises a body of knowledge which extends from certain fundamental truths. Prime among these are:

Man is an immortal spiritual being.

His experience extends well beyond a single lifetime.

His capabilities are unlimited, even if not presently realized.

Scientology further holds man to be basically good, and that his spiritual salvation depends upon himself and his fellows and his attainment of brotherhood with the universe.

Scientology is not a dogmatic religion in which one is asked to believe anything on faith. An individual discovers for himself that Scientology works by applying its principles and observing or experiencing the results.

The ultimate goal of Scientology is true spiritual enlightenment and freedom for the individual.

Sounds somewhat like a western version of Buddhism.  The fundamental flaw (aside from just being one of those touchy-feely happy religions) as I see it is their belief that man is basically good.  Not only is this the polar opposite of what I believe, but where I live (Earth) it’s abundantly clear that man is not basically good.

Posted by Anthony on 7 replies


01. Jun 21, 2003 at 7:59pm by Anthony:

Apparently, my friend Steve (not to be confused with Steev, who posts here often) did some research into Scientology a while back.  He IMed me right after I created this post.  Here’s the conversation:

Steve: ahaha, I just read your post on your board about scientology
Steve: from what I understand, they also believe that people can basically become gods (they call them "operating thetans", I think)
Anthony: that’s handy
Steve: l. ron hubbard wrote about going to other planets after you die
Steve: and they have trained hypnotists in their churches, I forget what they call them
Steve: but he said that in one of his own hypnosis sessions, he found out that most people used to be clams in their former lives
Anthony: CLAMS??
Steve: because he would pinch his fingers together over and over, and the people under hypnosis would feel pain
Anthony: does l ron hubbard == john paul??
Steve: I’m telling it, it’s the weirdest thing ever
Steve: telling you, I mean
Anthony: haha
Anthony: well it’s good to know that it’s as bad as I always imagined
Steve: a lot of times, people online call is $cientology
Anthony: what, you have to pay or something?
Steve: because it costs literally tens of thousands of dollars to undergo the therapy sessions
Anthony: you have to get therapy??
Steve: to complete the entire program costs near a million, or it used to
Anthony: I thought you just "found your own truths" or something
Steve: a lot of actors are scientologists
Steve: well, you can
Anthony: yeah, I knew lots of actors were
Steve: but they encourage you to go to sessions
Anthony: heck, I bet they do
Anthony: l ron hubbard is a genius
Steve: oh my god
Anthony: invent a religion and market it to movie stars
Steve: I just remembered, he also has a big story about some evil alien coming to earth a long time ago
Steve: ahahaha, I’ve got to find this again
Steve: I think it’s his version of the beginning of life on earth
Steve: it’s hilarious
Steve: but he’s dead serious about it
Anthony: send me in when you find it
Steve: ok
Steve: ahaha
Steve: it’s called "auditing"
Steve: A person receiving auditing is called a preclear — from pre-Clear, a person not yet Clear. A preclear is a person who, through auditing, is finding out more about himself and life.
Anthony: man, you’re like a scientology treature trove.... this dialogue is getting posted in its entirety
Steve: a long time ago I read about so many religions, especially satanism and scientology
Steve: a whole lot
Anthony: auditing... sounds shadily like a government scheme to get money
Steve: doesn’t it?
Anthony: yeah....... what does satanism say?
Steve: they changed the scientology home page a lot, but I think the info might still be there about that alien
Steve: what does satanism say about what?
Steve: it says a lot of stuff
Anthony: I mean in general, what’s it’s deal
Steve: well
Steve: if I remember right, they’ve got a 9 or 11 point code
Steve: like the commandments
Anthony: distinctly not 10
Steve: yes
Steve: I think they have a primary code and a secondary
Steve: and I think they’re 11 and 9
Steve: seriously, everything levay wrote about was anti-christian
Steve: he went out of his way to make christians look bad
Anthony: is there anything original or sensible in it, or is it purely a response to Christianity?
Steve: some of them were "don’t hurt animals or small children", but others were "if someone disrespects you in your own house, treat him cruelly and without mercy"
Steve: some of it is sensible and original, but a lot of it is completely ridiculous
Steve: they believe that people are gods
Steve: and that ’satan’ is a representation of the dark power in all people
Anthony: that’s not original
Steve: and that you can cast spells by focusing on your own power
Anthony: that’s just the opposite of the Christian belief of God in each Christian
Steve: no it’s not, but I think church of satanism in its entirety is mostly original
Steve: I mean, he steals a lot from christianity
Steve: but the whole thing put together wasn’t done before I don’t think
Steve: ahaha, more from scientology:  Auditing is assisted by use of a religious artifact which helps the auditor and preclear locate areas of spiritual distress or travail.
Anthony: yeah, ok, I meant unoriginal as in, it’s (primarily/largely) a response to something else rather than it’s own invention
Steve: yes, mostly
Steve: but the whole spellcasting thing I think is pretty original
Anthony: well, but the bible forbids sorcery and such... there were people making similar claims for a long time
Anthony: when did satanism start?
Steve: I think it was in the 60s
Steve: when he wrote the satanic bible
Anthony: oh yeah, I guess that would do it
Steve: it’s not satanism like "devil worshipping"
Steve: it’s like "church of satan"ism
Steve: that’s what they call the organization, the church of satan
Anthony: but don’t they hold the devil to be the big powerful boss guy?
Steve: they don’t believe in the devil, or any deity
Anthony: but you said "and that ’satan’ is a representation of the dark power in all people"
Steve: yea, they try to use the old notion of satan as some vastly power evil being as a misunderstanding
Steve: and instead, ’satan’ is really just something in humanity
Steve: some power that every human has inside him
Steve: or her
Steve: and that’s what you use to cast spells
Steve: vastly powerful, I meant
Anthony: oh, I see
Steve: I wish I could remember that alien’s name, I can’t find that story
Anthony: man, that would be good
Steve: it’s great
Steve: ahahaha
Steve: I found it
Steve: hahahahaa
Anthony: send!
Anthony: Teegeeack !
Steve: hahaha
Anthony: this writing style is hard to follow... what the heck is even going on here
Steve: I’m trying to find a better one
Steve: I think those are notes from hubbard
Anthony: notes, as in, this whole article?
Anthony: or just the bottom
Steve: I think the thing in yellow is a satire
Steve: the rest of them are written by hubbard
Steve: in dianetics, and some other books
Steve: oh wait
Steve: no, the thing in yellow isn’t a satire
Anthony: Operation Clambake!
Steve: that’s part of hubbard’s story about that alien
Steve: ahaha
Steve: his name was Xemu, or Xenu
Steve: he invaded earth with hydrogen bombs and destroyed almost the entire population
Steve: The universe was not created by a single supreme being _ex nihilo_ (out of nothing), thus having a separate existence of its own. Instead, the Scientology universe constitutes a subjective, mental emanation or "projection" of the thetans, having merely an agreed-upon (and not actual) reality. Thus, the entire physical universe is a Game, a product of thetan ingenuity (designed for escaping boredom) which apparently emanates from an original thetan consensus to "create" in pre-history.[13]
Anthony: I was just going to say that
Steve: there is so much ridiculous stuff
Steve: I stopped reading about it back then because it was so overwhelmingly ridiculous
Steve: it just doesn’t end
Anthony: good call
Steve: eheh, yup
Steve: all right I’m gonna go eat
Steve: save up your money so you can be an operating thetan
Anthony: ok, thanks for the info..... yeah, will do
Anthony: can’t wait, in fact
Steve: sounds great
Anthony: see you on the other side
Steve: haha
Steve: later

02. Jun 22, 2003 at 11:04pm by *amanda*:

Speaking of aliens, the Chinese are rather fascinated by American UFO stories.  In fact, one of my students said he wants to go to America someday, rent a car, drive into the countryside, and watch UFOs.  Heh.  And I thought the Yoopers were funny.  It says something about society, I think.  Something is missing, you know?

By the way, isn’t there another religion or kind of church with a name similar to Scientology?

03. Jun 23, 2003 at 3:21am by steev:

i think its called the church of science - something along those lines - i was delivering a copier out in jackson, mi, and saw a church with a name to that effect.  thought it was a church of scientology.

04. Jun 23, 2003 at 8:31am by Anthony:

There’s also a church called "Church of the Christian Scientist" or something to that effect... but definitely with "Scientist" and not just "Science" in the name.  It’s in my area (sort of) -- Blue Bell, PA.  But it’s probably related to Scientology or that church you mentioned, Steev.

05. Jun 23, 2003 at 10:00am by Kelsey:

The other major flaw is that $cientology basically says you can save yourself.
The sad thing is, people will skip Christianity [thinking they already know all about it and that it doesnt work] and go right into other crazy religions without doubt.

06. Jun 25, 2003 at 3:51am by *amanda*:

Yeah, something like steev or Anthony said, church of Christian Science or something like that.  Maybe there are several varieties with that name.  Anyway, I used to see one in Muskegon MI and the building brought to mind a museum.  No doubt I could find out by surfing the web but sometimes content of that nature is "unavailable" to me.  I’ll put it on my list of things to do when in the USA.  My curiousity is growing.

07. Jun 28, 2003 at 11:22am by steev:

michigan represent! next time we are in jackson, i will try to look at the church better, i plan on starting to take my digicam to work with me more, since the weather is a bit nicer now, so hopefully i can get some interesting shots while we are passing things.

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